Talk:BoyLovers' codes of ethics

"The" Boylove Code of Ethics leads one to believe that only one code of ethics for BoyLovers exists. Is this true? Can you provide a reference for that? Otherwise, shouldn't it be "A" Boylove Code of Ethics or "One" Boylove Code of Ethics? Thanks. User4 (talk) 14:15, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

I am not sure why you think that it suggests or leads one "to believe that only one code of ethics for BoyLovers exists"? If you read the narrative it says that more exist and links to two others? --Etenne 14:35, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps due to the use of the article "The," the title is misleading? Have you recently reviewed the usage of the article "the" as opposed to the use of "a" or "one"? I think that if you did, then you would then better understand the reason for my comment. Thanks. User4 (talk) 14:41, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

On third thought, maybe the article would better be titled "BoyLovers' codes of ethics," and then written up as such. There have been a large number of "codes of ethics" written up for and about BoyLovers. What do you think? User4 (talk) 15:11, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes, that seems reasonable. --Etenne 20:18, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

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IN the section, "Another BoyLovers Response to Dragonlover's code of ethics" who is user4 quoting? Or is this simply an editorial added to an encyclopedia article? --Etenne 11:27, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

User4 is quoting a very experienced BoyLover's experiences with a large number of boys. Dragonlover's "code of ethics" is an editorial, (and it is in an "encyclopedia" article), but it seems that Dragonlover is editorializing on the basis of little or no real-life experience with boys. Personally, I would be willing to bet money that he has very little or no real-life experience on which to base his personal opinions (which he has done in an "encyclopedia" article) regarding what he believes "real" BoyLover's relationships with boys are like. User4 (talk) 11:50, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't agree. Dragonlover's "code of ethics" is something I added to illustrate one code of ethics that boylovers (Particularly those at EI) have adopted in recent times. While you may personally disagree with all or part of it, it does not change the facts. Encyclopedia articles describe existing things so if you can find other existing code of ethics, free free to include them but stop adding personal option. --Etenne 12:38, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

In fact any time you feel the need to write about your personal opinion don't post it here but to one of the other message boards (i.e. anything that starts with I think) unless you can find an authoritative source who agrees with you. Example you said, "What the Greeks did is irrelevant to today's BoyLovers." And while you may think that and you are entitled to that opinion, it needs to be written professor so-N-so said that "What the Greeks did is irrelevant to today's BoyLovers." Plus, I would argue that that is not a true statement all and that more BL's (particularly BL historians) then not would disagree with that statement. --Etenne 12:55, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

You said:

I don't agree [that Dragonlover's "code of ethics" is an editorial opinion]

Then I wonder if you know what "editorial opinion" means.

...one code of ethics that boylovers (Particularly those at EI) have adopted in recent times...

There was never a formal "adoption" at EI of Dragonlover's "code of ethics".

While you may personally disagree with all or part of it, it does not change the facts.

The facts? Huh? That makes no sense to me at all...

Encyclopedia articles describe existing things...

That is a false statement, but it would take a long time to explain to you why it is false.

Example you said, "What the Greeks did is irrelevant to today's BoyLovers."

Yes, I did. It is my opinion (and I am "an authority"). In fact, that opinion is held by a very large number of other authorities as well. But you seem to be unaware of that fact.

You seem to be a bit behind in your reading. I'm just wondering, have you read Bruce Rind, Abu Nuwas, Alex van Naerssen, J.M. Barrie, Hakim Bey, Edward Brongersma, Vern Bullough, Ralph Nicholas Chubb, Rudi van Dantzig, Lord Alfred Douglas, Casimir Dukahz, Tony Duvert, Wayne R. Dynes, Joseph Geraci, André Gide, Allen Ginsberg, Gerald Hannon, Gil Hardwick, Gerald P. Jones, James R. Kincaid, Judith Levine, John Henry Mackay, John Mitzel, Henry de Montherlant, Tom O'Carroll, William Armstrong Percy III, David Riegel, Frederick William Rolfe, Robin Sharpe, John Addington Symonds, David Thorstad, Frank Torey, Walt Whitman, Oscar Wilde, Frits Bernard, James Cantor, Alfred Kinsey, David Finkelhor, Richard Yuill, Ole Martin Moen, Matthew Waites, Kenneth Dover, J.Z Eglinton, Germaine Greer, Thomas K Hubbard, Michael Matthew Kaylor, Hubert Kennedy, Andrew & Eva Cantarella Lear, Roger Moody, T Rivas, Frederick William Rolfe, Warren, Edw. Perry (writing as Arthur Lyon Raile),Rod Downey, Philip Jenkins, Thomas Mann, Mary Renault (just to mention a very very few of the authors that I have read, and based my authoritative opinions on)? (By the way, how many of those names do you even recognize?) Oh, not to mention the my own original in-depth research that I have done on the topics of sex, BoyLove and boys, which further makes me an authority on the subjects. In fact, I am a far better authority on those subjects than many of the authors that I have mentioned above! User4 (talk) 20:44, 10 May 2016 (UTC)