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Throughout history, boylovers around the world, and in different eras, have independently--without communicating with each other--developed  philosophies and codes of conduct <ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_code Ethical code (Wikipedia)]</ref> <ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct Code of conduct (Wikipedia)]</ref> that are remarkably similar to each other. This can be seen in both the [[Philosophy of Greek pederasty|Greek]] and [[Wakashudō|Japanese]] belief systems. While there is no consensus within the boylove community as to what constitutes the tenets of boylove, various themes have persisted throughout our history.     
Throughout history, boylovers around the world, and in different eras, have independently--without communicating with each other--developed  philosophies and codes of conduct <ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_code Ethical code (Wikipedia)]</ref> <ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct Code of conduct (Wikipedia)]</ref> that are remarkably similar to each other. This can be seen in both the [[Philosophy of Greek pederasty|Greek]] and [[Wakashudō|Japanese]] belief systems. While there is no consensus within the boylove community as to what constitutes the tenets of boylove, various themes have persisted throughout our history.     


==The Boylover's "Golden Rule"==
The vast majority of BoyLovers are (as are the vast majority of ''all'' people, whether BoyLovers, or not) ethical people, who wish to do no harm to others. The following is "The BoyLover's Golden Rule":
*<big>''"Do unto others (including boys) as you would have them do unto you."''</big>
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==A BoyLover's code of ethics by the psychiatrist Gerard Roelofs of the Netherlands==
==A BoyLover's code of ethics by the psychiatrist Gerard Roelofs of the Netherlands==
First, [Roelofs] states: "Above the age of twelve, a sexual relationship with an adult is not necessarily harmful for a child. ‘[M]utuality can be possible, and the interest of the child can have prioity’.
First, [Roelofs] states: "Above the age of twelve, a sexual relationship with an adult is not necessarily harmful for a child. ‘[M]utuality can be possible, and the interest of the child can have prioity’.
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11 - A boylover should not "cruise" to pick up strange boys for sexual encounters, because that encourages boys to "hustle" or prostitute themselves.
11 - A boylover should not "cruise" to pick up strange boys for sexual encounters, because that encourages boys to "hustle" or prostitute themselves.


===Another BoyLovers ''Response'' to Dragonlover's code of ethics===
==The Boylover's "Golden Rule"==
There is no one set of "criteria" that a person must meet to "qualify" as a BoyLover. Boylovers are men who are emotionally and/or physically attracted to boys. BoyLovers are all kinds of people.
The vast majority of BoyLovers are (as are the vast majority of ''all'' people, whether BoyLovers, or not) ethical people, who wish to do no harm to others. The following is "The BoyLover's Golden Rule":
 
*<big>''"Do unto others (including boys) as you would have them do unto you."''</big>
BoyLovers ''may'' or ''may not'' play a large role in a boy's life. It is not automatically "a large responsibility". Some boys are merely looking for a sexual "good time," and not a "heavy-duty" relationship.
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The idea of the "Golden Rule" dates back at least to the early [[Confucian]] times (551–479 BCE). The concept also appears  in [[:Category:Buddhism|Buddhism]], [[:Category:Christianity|Christianity]], [[Hinduism]], [[:Category:Islam|Islam]], [[Judaism]], [[Taoism]], [[Zoroastrianism]], and "the rest of the world's major religions".<ref name="W.A. Spooner 1914 pp. 310">W.A. Spooner, "The Golden Rule," in James Hastings, ed. ''Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics'', Vol. 6 (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1914) pp. 310–12, quoted in Rushworth M. Kidder, ''How Good People Make Tough Choices: Resolving the Dilemmas of Ethical Living'', Harper, New York, 2003. {{ISBN|0-688-17590-2}}. p. 159</ref>
The boy's best interest, and his future as well as present well being, ''should'' be a priority to the boylover, but it is not the ''only'' priority.
 
What the Greeks did is irrelevant to today's BoyLovers.
 
Man/boy relationships may take many forms. Some involve deeply loving relationships. Others do ''not''. It should be up to the ''boy'' what kind of relationship that he wants, and the man should ''attempt'' to be what the boy wishes him to be, but it may not always be possible for the BoyLover to do so.
 
Not all man/boy relationships are "loving" ones. Sometimes they are just simple friendships.
 
Yes, a boylover should do anything reasonably possible to protect his young friend from harm, but any exposure or embarrassment from the arrest of the BoyLover ''may not'' be under the BoyLover's control. Many BoyLovers who never even ''had'' a "sexual relationship" with a boy have ''still'' been investigated by the police, and the boy was then exposed and embarrassed by the arrest--and this was done ''deliberately'' by the police!
 
No one knows when their reputation will be attacked by others. There is little that an otherwise normal and ethical BoyLover can do if the BoyLover's reputation ''is'' attacked. Some of "the mud slung" will stick to any boys the BoyLover knows.
 
A BoyLover should ''try'' to be truthful and honest, and ''try'' not to lie to his young friends, but this is not always possible, and is not always in the best interest of the boy. There are times when it ''is'' appropriate to "stretch the truth" with others, especially if it is done to protect the other's feelings.
 
Yes, a BoyLover should not seek intimate contact with a boy, without knowing and understanding the boy's interests and feelings. But knowing and understanding the other person's feelings is normal in ''any kind'' of relationship between two people.
 
There is ''no way'' for any boy (or anyone else, for that matter) to ''fully understanding'' the social, legal, and health implications of ''any'' relationship, or ''any other activity'' as well. The boy (if he is older than around 10 years old) is ''already'' likely to know that society takes a dim view of homosexual relationships, so it may not be necessary to explain that if the relationship is exposed, the boy may suffer some hardships. The BoyLover should not knowingly expose the boy to any disease risks, nor attempt any form of penetration which would be painful for the boy (unless the boy ''insists'' on such penetration, but ''still'' it may be better for the BoyLover to refuse, and explain exactly why he refuses. Of course, in that case, the boy may just look for  ''another'' BoyLover who ''will'' penetrate him.)
 
Boys should be treated with respect. On the other hand, some boys ''like'' to merely be a ''sexual object'' and very much ''enjoy'' their status as such.
 
Whether a BoyLover should engage with the parents is problematic. Sometimes it is better ''not'' to engage with the parents, as the parents may automatically forbid the boy to have a relationship with an adult man (or, for another example, for the boy to have a relationship with a Black boy at school, or an Italian boy, etc.) Parents ''do not'' "own" their children. Parents are merely the ''caretakers'' of their young, and ''do not'' have the right to ''total control'' of their children.
 
A BoyLover should use great care and discretion in the case of alcohol or drugs. Generally, he should not be the first one to introduce a boy to, or encourage a boy to take, damaging or illegal substances. But the ''boy'' owns ''his body'' and it is ultimately up to the ''boy'' to decide what he does with his body. A BoyLover, of course, should ''counsel'' the boy, warning him of any dangers, etc. that the boy may not be aware of, but it is up to the ''boy'' to decide what he wants. The BoyLover ''does not'' "own" the boy.
 
Getting a boy "stoned" in order to perform sexual acts on the boy's body, without the boy knowing that that is the intention of the Boylover, is wrong, as it does not take into consideration what the ''boy'' wants. But some boys ''like'' and ''want'' to take drugs or alcohol before engaging in sexual activity (just as many ''adults'' do).
 
A BoyLover should make it clear to the boy that, because the boy is still young, the boy's sexual preferences are still not firmly fixed. Encouraging a boy to engage in ''heterosexual'' experimentation will allow the ''boy'' to decide what his own sexual preferences are. When all is said and done, the BoyLover has little to do with how the boy's sexual preferences develop.
 
Yes, a BoyLover ''should'' guide his young friends, and encourage his young friends to stay in school, and to avoid crime, and the BoyLover ''should'' do all he reasonably can to help them to develop successful careers.
 
Some boys go cruising just for sex (just as some ''men'' do), and some boys go cruising for sex which they also can ''also'' earn some money for engaging in. The problem is ''not'' whether the boy receives money or not for engaging in sexual activity. The problem is ''what the boy does with the money he receives''. If the boy uses the money to buy hard drugs, that is not a good thing. If the boy uses the money to take his ''girlfriend'' out on a ''date'', that may very well be a very ''good'' thing.
 
Otherwise, I agree with everything that Dragonlover said.


==References==
==References==
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==See also==
==See also==
*[[High Boylover Priesthood]] "The High Boylover Priesthood is a phrase used on BoyChat to refer to people who attempt to define who is or is not a "real" boylover. [...]"
*[[Boylove Manifesto]]
*[[Text of the Boylove Manifesto (English)]]
*[[Human rights and the denial of sexual freedom| Human rights and the denial of sexual freedom  Rene Guyon's 1951 manifesto]]
*[[Philosophy of responsible boylove]]
*[[Philosophy of responsible boylove]]
*[[Philosophy of Greek pederasty]]
*[[Philosophy of Greek pederasty]]
*[[Wakashudō]]
*[[Wakashudō]]
*[[Child prostitution]] A "work in progress," with some very messy sections (my apologies).
 
[[Category:Philosophy]]
[[Category:Philosophy]]


==External links==
==External links==
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Rule The Golden Rule] (Wikipedia article)
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Rule The Golden Rule] (Wikipedia article)

Latest revision as of 16:35, 5 October 2024

Throughout history, boylovers around the world, and in different eras, have independently--without communicating with each other--developed philosophies and codes of conduct [1] [2] that are remarkably similar to each other. This can be seen in both the Greek and Japanese belief systems. While there is no consensus within the boylove community as to what constitutes the tenets of boylove, various themes have persisted throughout our history.

A BoyLover's code of ethics by the psychiatrist Gerard Roelofs of the Netherlands

First, [Roelofs] states: "Above the age of twelve, a sexual relationship with an adult is not necessarily harmful for a child. ‘[M]utuality can be possible, and the interest of the child can have prioity’.

The five criteria for a healthy pedophile relationship

  • 1. There should be no coercion;
  • 2. The child should be able to stop [the sexual interaction] at any time.
  • 3. [Any sexual activity] should be [only] at the psycho-sexual level of the child. In other words: the intimacy has to fit within the sexual feelings of the 12 to 16 year old youngster. ‘One can include mutual masturbation, but not about real hard sado-masochistic games,’ says Roelofs.
He goes on to state, "Two other conditions however, will in most cases form an obstacle for the present-day generation of pedophiles," in Roelofs opinion:
  • 4. The parents of the child should know about the relationship [and the sexual aspect of it].
  • 5. It should also be a condition that the child can talk about the relationship within his [social] environment, without meeting disapproval.[3]

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20070927180016/http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/i_did_not_know.htm

  • Errors in the English have been corrected in this reproduction.

A Boylove Code of Ethics (by Dragonlover)

Every man who has an innate love of boys is not necessarily qualified to be a boylover. The role of a boylover in a young boy's life is one of immense responsibility, very much akin to that of a father. The boy's best interest, and his future as well as present well being, must always be of paramount importance to the boylover.

Even in Ancient Greece, where boylove was the norm for several centuries, the boylover was expected to be a man of high moral character. Indeed, it brought shame on the boy and his family if his erastes (lover) was anything less.

Because a man/boy relationship involves two people who love one another, boylove encompasses the entire spectrum of human emotion. Therefore, the sexual aspect is a part of most man/boy relationships, even if that aspect is never consumated. It follows, then, that any boylove code of ethics will deal with the issue of sex in the relationship in a mature and responsible way.

1 - A boylover should do everything possible to protect his young friend from any harm, including exposure or embarrassment from arrest. This could mean abstaining from fully consensual sexual relations if such is illegal in the state or country where the boylover lives.

2 - A boylover should protect his own reputation, so that his young friends will not be hurt or suffer as a result of association with him.

3 - A boylover must be truthful and honest, and never lie to his young friends.

4 - A boylover should not seek intimate contact with a boy, without knowing and understanding the boy's interests and feelings.

5 - Intimacy with a boy should never develop into a sexual relationship without the boy fully consenting and understanding the social, legal, and health implications of the relationship.

6 - Boys should not be treated as sexual objects to be enjoyed at the whim of a boylover.

7 - A boylover must respect the role and authority of a boy's parents and not seek to undermine that role.

8 - A boylover should not provide his young friends with alcohol or drugs, and certainly will never use drugs to weaken a boy's sexual inhibitions, or "to get him into the mood" for sexual intimacy.

9 - A boylover has the responsibility of encouraging and helping a boy to develop his normal heterosexual tendencies, unless the boy confirms that he has an innate homosexual orientation.

10 - A boylover should guide and encourage his young friends to stay in school, avoid crime, and do all he can do to help them to develop a successful career.

11 - A boylover should not "cruise" to pick up strange boys for sexual encounters, because that encourages boys to "hustle" or prostitute themselves.

The Boylover's "Golden Rule"

The vast majority of BoyLovers are (as are the vast majority of all people, whether BoyLovers, or not) ethical people, who wish to do no harm to others. The following is "The BoyLover's Golden Rule":

  • "Do unto others (including boys) as you would have them do unto you."

The idea of the "Golden Rule" dates back at least to the early Confucian times (551–479 BCE). The concept also appears in Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Taoism, Zoroastrianism, and "the rest of the world's major religions".[4]

References

  1. ↑ Ethical code (Wikipedia)
  2. ↑ Code of conduct (Wikipedia)
  3. ↑ Dagblad De Limburger, 8 August 1998
  4. ↑ W.A. Spooner, "The Golden Rule," in James Hastings, ed. Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, Vol. 6 (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1914) pp. 310–12, quoted in Rushworth M. Kidder, How Good People Make Tough Choices: Resolving the Dilemmas of Ethical Living, Harper, New York, 2003. Template:ISBN. p. 159

See also

External links

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