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::Since you say that the reports are so numerous, could you please provide a few links to articles about these "backdoors" in Tor? Thanks. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 07:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC) | ::Since you say that the reports are so numerous, could you please provide a few links to articles about these "backdoors" in Tor? Thanks. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 07:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
:::I posted I think 7 or 8 such links in an article on a website that has recently disappeared, so I don't have them readily available for reposting, but you could find several easily by doing a web search. Start with "tor onion backdoor" and try similar terms and variations. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 21:52, 22 March 2016 (UTC) | :::I posted I think 7 or 8 such links in an article on a website that has recently disappeared, so I don't have them readily available for reposting, but you could find several easily by doing a web search. Start with "tor onion backdoor" and try similar terms and variations. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 21:52, 22 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
::::Carl Sagan is quoted as saying, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." You are making an extraordinary claim. It seems to me that you should provide the evidence. Please do. Thank you. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 03:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::I kinda don't think the assertion that Tor is unsafe falls into that category, but if you feel like it, go for it! Of course, it's so tiresome doing a couple of Google searches. Anyway, I'm not the one who's going to hurt from applying poor advice from BoyWiki. It's more than twenty years since I published my PGP public key. I even got it signed by Phil Zimmermann. But who cares… __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 18:35, 23 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::: You use '''''PGP?''''' My god--don't you know about the ''backdoors'' in PGP available to LEO personnel? Google it, you'll see! [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 19:00, 23 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::::No, I lost my private key about 15 years ago. I'm just pointing out that I was there. I don't look for privacy anymore, but others do. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 20:51, 23 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Serious errors of fact in the article == | |||
The article contains numerous serious errors of fact. It must be critically reviewed to correct those errors. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 20:04, 30 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
== In the "Tor should not be promoted" section I made a facetious comment. == | |||
''"You use PGP? My god--don't you know about the backdoors in PGP"'' | |||
The editor the comment was directed at seems to have missed completely the sarcastic tone of the comment. To the best of my knowledge, PGP is safe and secure when used correctly. This note is just to set the record straight ... [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 20:09, 30 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Tor tracing via ISP log review == | |||
Are there any citations that can be added to evidence that Tor users have been traced by ISP log reviews and timestamps? It'll be useful to reinforce the dangers and provide readers with further information for if they want to read more. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 13:05, 27 November 2018 (UTC) |
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Tor should NOT be promoted
The reports of Tor being compromised by backdoors available to LEO personnel are numerous. The article in its current state does not reflect this at all. ____meco (talk) 07:11, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- Since you say that the reports are so numerous, could you please provide a few links to articles about these "backdoors" in Tor? Thanks. User4 (talk) 07:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- I posted I think 7 or 8 such links in an article on a website that has recently disappeared, so I don't have them readily available for reposting, but you could find several easily by doing a web search. Start with "tor onion backdoor" and try similar terms and variations. __meco (talk) 21:52, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- Carl Sagan is quoted as saying, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." You are making an extraordinary claim. It seems to me that you should provide the evidence. Please do. Thank you. User4 (talk) 03:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- I kinda don't think the assertion that Tor is unsafe falls into that category, but if you feel like it, go for it! Of course, it's so tiresome doing a couple of Google searches. Anyway, I'm not the one who's going to hurt from applying poor advice from BoyWiki. It's more than twenty years since I published my PGP public key. I even got it signed by Phil Zimmermann. But who cares… __meco (talk) 18:35, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- Carl Sagan is quoted as saying, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." You are making an extraordinary claim. It seems to me that you should provide the evidence. Please do. Thank you. User4 (talk) 03:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- I posted I think 7 or 8 such links in an article on a website that has recently disappeared, so I don't have them readily available for reposting, but you could find several easily by doing a web search. Start with "tor onion backdoor" and try similar terms and variations. __meco (talk) 21:52, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- Since you say that the reports are so numerous, could you please provide a few links to articles about these "backdoors" in Tor? Thanks. User4 (talk) 07:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Serious errors of fact in the article
The article contains numerous serious errors of fact. It must be critically reviewed to correct those errors. User4 (talk) 20:04, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
In the "Tor should not be promoted" section I made a facetious comment.
"You use PGP? My god--don't you know about the backdoors in PGP"
The editor the comment was directed at seems to have missed completely the sarcastic tone of the comment. To the best of my knowledge, PGP is safe and secure when used correctly. This note is just to set the record straight ... User4 (talk) 20:09, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Tor tracing via ISP log review
Are there any citations that can be added to evidence that Tor users have been traced by ISP log reviews and timestamps? It'll be useful to reinforce the dangers and provide readers with further information for if they want to read more. FalseAlias (talk) 13:05, 27 November 2018 (UTC)