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| *[[BoyWiki:Etenne's Palaestra]] | | *[[BoyWiki:Etenne's Palaestra]] |
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| # '''By posting this are you going to make Etenne lose sleep?''' | | # '''By posting this are you going to make Etenne lose sleep?''' |
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| :::Enlighten me. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 03:16, 26 March 2015 (UTC) | | :::Enlighten me. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 03:16, 26 March 2015 (UTC) |
| ::::Hey! You didn't enlighten me about what those two errors are due to. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 04:10, 28 March 2015 (UTC) | | ::::Hey! You didn't enlighten me about what those two errors are due to. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 04:10, 28 March 2015 (UTC) |
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| | == Welcome back == |
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| | I was glad to read your message on BoyChat and to see you're back. Then I thought: is there any hope left that the French BoyWiki will survive? :-/ |
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| | Bron disappeared, I don't know when, why nor where. So did the French tech Pinocchio, which is a great loss. Some rare contributors obstinately continued creating pages on the French wiki between 2015 and 2019. But now I think they are disheartened because of the recent and sudden software change, that ruined all the formatting we had made on a lot of pages (thanks to Pinocchio's coding extensions). |
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| == Adding a review ==
| | Now it seems that the Council's page doesn't work anymore -- or am I wrong? |
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| I'm about to type in a review of Show Me! In the journal Family Counselor, off of JStor. Before putting in that effort, I wanted to be sure you had no problem with it. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 16:39, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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| :So long as it is not a copyright violation and appropriately referenced, it shouldn't be a problem. You can add excerpts etc... --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 18:21, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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| It is a copyright violation. Including the Show Me! preface is one. I suspect I could easily find more. I'm pretty knowledgable about copyright and my recommendation is to just ignore it, especially since you have no commercial purpose. The worst that could happen is someone sends a letter asking that something be taken down. They aren't going to use their lawyers' time with a nonprofit individual user with no money who's not selling anything. It's not worth it to them. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 02:29, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
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| == Sex offender risk assessment ==
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| Can you please restore [[sex offender risk assessment]] to my userspace? Maybe it can eventually be improved to a point where it's suitable for mainspace. Thanks, [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 19:47, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
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| == Please fix categories for Child Rescue Coalition ==
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| I can't figure out what I did wrong. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 12:20, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| :You used the wrong brackets. I have done that before too--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 12:46, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| == Relevance of CPS-related issues to boylove ==
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| Hey Etenne,
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| The anti-CPS movement doesn't have a wiki yet. To what extent, if any, would you consider [http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Miscellany:Transcript_of_CPS_Whistleblower_Carlos_Morales_at_Liberty_Fest_NC this type of content] relevant to boylove? (Currently it's hosted at Mises Wiki, which will eventually go defunct because the Mises Institute's unspoken policy is to neither maintain nor destroy the wiki, and it's gradually rotting as the code becomes more and more outdated and begins to malfunction, an example being the InstantCommons which no longer works after Wikimedia's shift from http to https.)
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| The way I look at it, CPS is going to have a chilling effect on free speech as they take away the kids of anyone who is too outspokenly opposed to the age of consent, or who admits to having pedophilic desires. An example would be [http://nathania.org/w/images/c/c1/Piper_Morgan_Sparrow_Faye_amended_petition.pdf this petition] stating, "It has been reported that Father has pedophilic desires. . . . It is alleged that Father has posted numerous online material expounding justifications for sexual relations between adults and children, placing the welfare of the subject Child at risk. . . . Father admits his pedophilic desires".
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| The site asks, "Please ask yourself before hitting the save button Does this have a cultural or historical relevance to boylove?" Culture consists of values and norms, so could potentially extend into the political and legal realms. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 17:43, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
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| == "Village pump"? ==
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| Di we have a page here for wiki-related discussions? __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:28, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
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| :Yes, https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora [[BoyWiki:Agora]] We are kind of into the ancient Greek culture :)--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 13:42, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
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| ::You are, huh? Who'd have thunk… ;-) __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:48, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
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| == Uploading? ==
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| Hello,
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| How can I upload a picture or two? [[User:Haiduc|Haiduc]] ([[User talk:Haiduc|talk]]) 17:49, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
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| :[[BoyWiki:Requests for file uploads]] --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 18:03, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
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| == Exempt regulars from CAPTCHA ==
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| I wonder if regulars could be exempted from having to fill out the CAPTCHA all the time? See [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:$wgAutopromote]] for more info on how to accomplish that. I was thinking that maybe editors who have, say, 1,000 edits and have been here for 100 days could be exempted from the CAPTCHA. Thanks. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 17:50, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
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| == Geez ==
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| These days, BoyChat is starting to have almost as much downtime as GirlChat. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 22:09, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
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| :Yeah, but it is good to have a break now and then..... I personally plan to get quite drunk tonight. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 22:29, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
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| == A vicious cycle ==
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| I want to donate to Free Spirits to help defend against DDoS attacks, but I guess the attackers took down the donation page too! [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 04:13, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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| :Yes, and I do not know for how long it will be down. I will know more maybe by Monday. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 04:51, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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| ::[[wikipedia:List_of_Charlie_and_the_Chocolate_Factory_characters#Veruca_Salt|But I want BoyChat to be back up NOW!]] [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 15:52, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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| :::The Tech. people are working on that but I have been given no ETA on when they will finish. When you are a BL, you learn to be patient :) --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 16:21, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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| :::: BC will be back sometime on Monday, after the new security features are added. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:37, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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| :::::BoyChat is now back online--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 20:22, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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| ::::::The donation page still [https://www.boychat.org/messages/1466753.htm isn't working] beyond the first step of the pledge process though. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 22:30, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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| == The donation page still isn't working! ==
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| AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 04:10, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
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| :Yes, I know. I have no idea when it will be up and running again. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 12:41, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
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| ::Is BoyChat going the way of Newgon? [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 01:47, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
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| ::: No, just a minor annoyance. We BL's move slowly but we keep moving..... if you knew how many times BoyChat was in real danger of dying, you'd be amazed that we are still here 20 years later. Someday the antis may win but that day is not today or anytime soon. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 02:47, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
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| == NEVER GIVE UP ==
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| [http://childwiki.org/w/images/3/35/Screencapture-fsco-freespirits-info-fundraiser-pledge-1456191002922.png THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE THAT YOUR DREAMS CAN BECOME A REALITY]. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 01:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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| :Yeah, I am not sure that is going to work but we will see. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 02:45, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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| ::Especially since I forgot my pledge number and never got an email, so now I have to do a new pledge. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 10:29, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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| == Hi. I'm alive, and, well... ==
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| I've been very very busy preparing materials for uploading. Of course, having lost my Internet connection several months ago did put a small crimp in my uploading style. Now dozens of books are in the pipeline, most simply waiting for final proofreading...
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| Well, I'm "Internetized" again, as of about two hours ago. But I'm still too busy to contribute much here... sorry about that...
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| Anyway, I'm just saying "hello". I hope you're OK. You may have been wondering if I was still alive...
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| BTW-- I don't remember much of the Wiki coding that I had learned, so expect errors for awhile in anything I do contribute...
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| Cheers! À bientôt
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| [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:09, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
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| :I am glad you are doing well and look forward to your future contributions to BoyWiki. I suppose that wiki code is rather like riding a bike [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px]] ... --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 17:52, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
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| ::Nice! What other "smileys" do we have available?
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| ::[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 13:58, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
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| :::That and just the regular one [[File:Face-smile.png|30 px]] are the only ones I have added so far. I just happened to like that one and decided to add it to my signature (until I get bored with it) Collecting BL related graphics is a hobby. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px]] 14:10, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
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| == Problems with User4 ==
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| I have been working on the article on Browser security, which I think I know something about both technically and socially. (I went through having my computer seized and searched.) He comes in and puts in things that are just wrong, such as "TOR is secure". We're having a low key edit war and I'm pretty frustrated about it. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 01:26, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
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| : I wish I had an easy answer for you or could say what is right but that is way beyond my area of expertise. I am sorry you are feeling frustrated. Sometimes it is difficult to work together when both people believe deeply that they are right. I don't have an answer. I do appreciate how you must be feeling and the work you do here --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px]] 02:48, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
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| == What to work on ==
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| Where would my finite efforts be most useful? I have a Ph.D. In history/literature; also very good at English and editing. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 01:54, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
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| :Hard to answer as I am not sure what your areas of interest are... my advice is to write about what you are passionate about. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px]] 02:41, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
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| == You might want to help out some BLs by posting ==
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| My article (it's pretty much finished--I've picked my brain for everything I could think of), "BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction" to the BC thread:
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| BCers convicted of crime: How did you get caught? - qwolk 2016-March-23 22:58:54, Wednesday (13)
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| https://www.boychat.org/messages/1469554.htm
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| Or, then again, you might ''not'' want to. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 20:28, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
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| == Something for the French BoyWiki, perhaps? ==
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| https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kkMGFcTJ8fIJ:http://mo.michelonfray.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Le-cheval-de-Vincennes1.pdf%2B%22Une+erotique+puerile%22+filetype:pdf&hl=en&gbv=1&filter=0&&ct=clnk
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| http://mo.michelonfray.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Le-cheval-de-Vincennes1.pdf
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| [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 19:19, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
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| == How do I "edit" an Agora entry to reply? ==
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| Your last entry was, "The only advice on that I can give is that it maybe..." but I see no way to edit that entry to reply. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:58, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
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| :Yeah, that thing works with JS (don't blame me... yell at Conner) you are going to have to go to the page directly [[BoyWiki:Agora/3_April_2016]] I believe. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:01, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
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| == I need a really small favor ==
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| I need to know if archive.org ''actually caches'' .PDF files, or if it simply ''links'' to the website. If they ''actually cache'' the .PDF files, then those files will be permanently available, even if that keepandshare account is closed. If the .PDF files are ''not'' cached, then--if the account is closed--the files will be lost.
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| If you click the following link, my question will be answered. Thanks! (You don't have to actually save the file when given the choice--just click on the link, then close the "save as" popup, and then close the browser window.)
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| https//www.marti2u.keepandsare.com
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| Let me know if you ''do'' do me this favor, OK?, because otherwise I won't know how archive.org is handling things... Thanks [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 14:15, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
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| :It seems to work. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 15:30, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
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| ::I'm checking out to see what actually happened... I don't know yet... Thanks much for your help! (put another URL above, so no-one will accidentally repeat your test and screw things up...) [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:41, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
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| :::Well, it looks like it was a "failure," meaning that archive.org ''does not'' cache the actual .PDF files themselves, but it just caches the ''links'' to them at keepandshare. That's a real shame... if the "marti" sites close, then the files will be lost forever... Now I'm really discouraged... I don't know what to do... :-( [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:34, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
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| == Hi. I know you're very busy, but I'd just like to point out that you haven't yet responded to a comment about Agora that I made ==
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| https://www.boywiki.org/en/User5/Draft/Agora_without_Javascript Thanks. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:02, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
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| == I made a sample "Here's some help" page for Buster's user page. ==
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| I think you can probably find it. Oh, where is everybody today? I'm feeling lonely, here all by myself... [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 04:16, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
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| :I am sorry you were feeling lonely but some days, I actually have to do real work.( which I am paying for today) I have a number of jobs that I have to get done (and several little jobs I want to get done) but unfortunately, the weather this year has been less then cooperative. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 13:01, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
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| == The Main Page of BoyWiki looks very nice! ==
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| I just wanted to let you know my opinion of it. You put a lot of work into it, I know. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:38, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
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| == User4 ==
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| Can't you just block him for a month or something? He's not that bad of a guy. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 00:15, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
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| :Yes, I wish that were possible however he refuses to take direction, he does things that I ask him not to do. Right now, I can't be around to monitor BoyWiki as often, as it is my busy time of year (which was the major factor in my decision). I simple can't trust him to be responsible. If he would stick to writing about books and other things of interest, I would not have a problem (so long as he did so within the copyright laws) but he has made it very clear to me that he will not do that and he doesn't care what I think and is going to do what he pleases... and that being the case, he is now more of a liability then an asset. The bottom line is that he can think that I am wrong all he likes, he can think I am an asshole, but he needs to understand that I am the person in charge and when I say don't do it then don't do it! I have always thought that User4 had a good deal to offer BoyWiki (and still do) but if he can't work within the structure, it is pointless to continue. I am done arguing, I am done fighting. I simple don't have the time or energy to do it. I have never thought user4 was "that bad of a guy" but BoyWiki is highly structured (i.e. it is not a message board) and the type of writing that is required is also structured (formula writing) and is not something that is in everyone's wheelhouse. Sometimes you have to work inside the proverbial box and user4 has proven to me that he is either unwilling or unable to do that. However, I will think about it and maybe when I am feeling less pressed and overwhelmed, my heart will be less hardened on this subject. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 02:51, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
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| ::"it is my busy time of year" 3-6 months block, then? If this were Wikipedia, he would probably just create another account and edit using that, but it isn't possible here. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 10:03, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
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| == English ==
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| Home page is two words.
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| Degrees of anonymity exist in English. Doing somethng, you can be more anonymous than before. What user4 calls anonymity we would call "total anonymity". So it's not that you have to choose between anonymity and non-anonymity. Changes made in TOR, which is far from totally secure, and browser security. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 22:22, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
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| ==user4 is dangerous==
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| His inaccurate changes to articles on computer security - basically portraying things as better and safer than they are - are putting boylovers in danger. I suggest you block him.
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| Do you want references on Tor's lack of security?
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| Computers become rapidly more powerful (Moore's Law). Thus they are more and more able to penetrate encryption. For more info, look up prime numbers under Cryptography.
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| You may not know whether to believe me or not, but isn't it safer to assume I'm right? [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 22:50, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
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| :User4 is currently banned.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 13:18, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
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| == Deletion of [[Internet security tutorial]] ==
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| I believe this article should be archived (deleted). It was written in 2009, is full of outdated and other misinformation (and grammar/spelling mistakes), and I don't think it's worth the effort to edit and update it. The very concept of a security tutorial which, if followed, will make you secure is a big miThe situation changes significantly at least every year, sometimes several times a year. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 11:38, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
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| == Suggest deletion of [[What if Astrologers took over the government?]] ==
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| Another User4 article, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing (a quote from Macbeth by Shakespeare).
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| I made a mistake referring to prime numbers. I should have said factorials. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 11:50, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
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| == Ottoman picture ==
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| I have some nineteenth-century ones that must be public domain. But how do I get them to you? In fact one would be good for the article. But I have no idea what the next step is.
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| I have more to do on the computer security articles. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 12:30, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
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| :Ether email picture to me at etenne@boywiki.org or post it some place where I can download it. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 13:41, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
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| :: I cannot figure out how to do this without leaving a trail back to my IP. Is there no direct way to upload a file to Boywiki? [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 14:18, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
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| :::No, most people email them to me or provide me the URL where I can retrieve them. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 14:25, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
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| http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4794/396/1600/kocek.0.jpg
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| https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Turkish_19th_century_kocek_dancer_01.jpg/200px-Turkish_19th_century_kocek_dancer_01.jpg
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| This is hand-colored:
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| http://babayagamusic.com/Encyclopedic-Dictionary-Ethnic-Arts/images/Ottoman-kocek-dancer-late-nineteenth-century-320x504.jpg
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| This says "danseuse" (female dancer, male is "danseur") but that can't be right. A female wouldn't wear this type of outfit. The kocek dancers were all male.
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| https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Turkish_19th_century_kocek_dancer_02.jpg [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 17:05, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
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| :Some of these we already have: https://www.boywiki.org/media/File:Turkish_-_Dancing_Kocek_-_Late_19th_c_-_wiki.jpg
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| https://www.boywiki.org/media/File:Turkish_19th_century_kocek_dancer_01.jpg
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| --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:56, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
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| == Government ccontact ==
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| Do you receive hate mail? Get contacted by any type of government body? Not just law enforcement.
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| I'm concerned about security. I guess there's at least one sheriff deputy among the users?
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| You have let an identity detail slip. Is there a way I can tell you other than posting it here (which I'm not going to do)..[[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 19:01, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
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| :''Do you receive hate mail?'' NO, I never get hate mail. ''Get contacted by any type of government body? Not just law enforcement'' No, I have never been contacted by any agency of any government or any agency of law enforcement.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 19:48, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
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| Is there anyplace I can read what happened? [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 07:13, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
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| :I am not sure what you mean... you mean about the outage?--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 18:50, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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| ::Yes I mean about theoutage. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 20:30, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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| Sure missed boywiki while it was gone! [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 20:29, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
| | If you can be of some help, I'd like to write more to you through a secure mailbox. |
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| == Can we have a page about BoyChat's current status? ==
| | [[User:Caprineus|Caprineus]] ([[User talk:Caprineus|talk]]) 21:28, 13 June 2021 (UTC) |
| | :I categorized all the daily pages of the French Agora, from December 7, 2008 to July 9, 2014 (most of them were difficult to find before this categorization): [https://www.boywiki.org/fr/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Agora Agora] |
| | :Now everybody can see the really tough job that had been made by many contributors of the French BoyWiki, especially by the tech Pinocchio. It is not acceptable that such a job is destroyed after every update or server change, as exposed here: [https://www.boywiki.org/fr/BoyWiki:Agora/28_septembre_2020 Modifications intempestives] (written more than eight months ago – nobody even bothered to answer). |
| | :But do French-speaking writings matter?... :-/ |
| | :[[User:Caprineus|Caprineus]] ([[User talk:Caprineus|talk]]) 13:55, 19 June 2021 (UTC) |
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| E.g. how to get to it? [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 21:05, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
| | :"But do French-speaking writings matter?" Well, I suppose that depends on who you ask. I would hope they matter to other French-speaking people and writers. I still don't have e-mail yet. Yeah, the upgrades do mess things up a bit but there is no way around that. |
| : I updated the BoyChat page now with two ways to get to it. [[User:Hikari-again|hikari-again]] ([[User talk:Hikari-again|talk]]) 1:23:45 AM Monday, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
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| :: I was told what was going on today and really the problem could be a result of many different issues... my guess is that there is a cable loose. However as this is Free Spirits, first we have to identify the person with the tech. skills to plug in a cable and the person with the authority to tell him to go plug it back in. This should go relatively quickly. I only anticipate that it will take a dozen or so meetings.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 02:41, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
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| == Is there an article about boys' hitting on men? ==
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| I know there's http://www.childwiki.nathania.org/wiki/Testimony:_CSA_(Children%27s_Sexual_Advances) | | ::The true problem is: when Wikipedia runs an update of MediaWiki, all features already installed are kept and perform correctly; but when BoyWiki is updated, almost all features created by a tech are suppressed. Why? |
| [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 05:26, 1 December 2017 (UTC) | | ::This is not "messing things up a bit", but destroying things a lot. :-( As I said before, when contributors see this, they are disheartened. |
| | ::I hope you can contact somebody who steps in on this wrong update process. As for me, I know nobody, and can do nothing: my only competence is to write about cultural boy-love topics. If "there is no way around" to keep my job in a good state and appearance, well... I will finally recognize that I was wrong to spend so much time and energy for it. :-((( |
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| :Not understanding what you are asking --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 13:59, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
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| ::J'ai essaye de t'ecrire. Tu sais ou me trouver. [[User:Haiduc|Haiduc]] ([[User talk:Haiduc|talk]]) 14:06, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
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| == Got any info concerning feminist involvement in the 1977 federal child porn legislation? ==
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| [[Nancy Whittier]] claims, "All congressional hearings that addressed pornography between 1977 and 1983 did so through the lens of child abuse". She also says, "between 1982-1988, feminists and conservatives were both highly mobilized on the issue and gained extensive congressional attention, federal action, and discursive change. Pornography sparked widespread response from the federal government in the Attorney General's Commission on Pornography, numerous congressional subcommittee hearings, and expanded enforcement divisions within several federal agencies. During this period, feminist frames emphasizing harms to women gained ground and legal obscenity enforcement grew." [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 22:00, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
| | :: yes you were absolutely right, that worked. Now, any guesses on getting Extension:TimedMediaHandler to work? |
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| I am sorry, but I would like to leave Boywiki. I oppose what it teaches. To me, the harm Adult/child sexual relationships do to children is a good reason to oppose this kind of activity. I am very sorry. Please don't be upset with me. How do I leave Boywiki? I wish the best for you all. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 00:45, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
| | Regarding getting Extension:TimedMediaHandler to work, can you post an example page or description of what the problem is? I can spend sometime on the Internet trying to track it down and report back if I find anything replicated. |
| :I assume that you could just stop posting and I am not sure BoyWiki "teaches" anything and is simply a record or archive.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 10:27, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
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| ::O.K. Just one more question. Is Boywiki legal in Canada? [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:43, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
| | --[[User:Eskimo|Eskimo]] ([[User talk:Eskimo|talk]]) 13:35, 10 August 2022 (UTC) |
| :::'''I am not an expert on Canadian law and can't give legal advice.''' Can you be arrested for having a dissenting or unpopular opinion in Canada? Ex: In Russia and other European countries, you can't support gay rights or anything that promotes homosexuality in their opinion. Socrates was convicted of "both corrupting the minds of the youth of Athens and of impiety (asebeia, "not believing in the gods of the state"),and as a punishment sentenced to death" for questioning the established belief system. He subsequently drank a mixture containing poison hemlock rather than go into exile. I suppose it depends on what risks a person is willing to take. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 23:36, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
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| :Why leave, rather than to try make the appropriate edits to ensure BoyWiki does not appear to be advocating either stance? You have the ability to make edits to content so that it does not encourage or "approve" of sexual contact with children, yet choose not to? BoyWiki is volunteer-run. What articles suggest that adult-child sexual relations are positive? [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 00:21, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
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| Hi, [[Etenne]], I am still planning on leaving Boywiki, but I was talking to [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] and I suggested ways to make Boywiki more neutral. I said, "It would be good to include the opinions of different groups relating to pedophilia: (Virtuous pedophiles supporting and Anti-Contact MAPS), '''groups I strongly support'''," and explain their point-of-view on Boywiki. What do you think? Also, is holding the view that adult-child sex as o.k. or any form of Pedophile Advocacy legal in Canada? [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 18:08, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
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| :I don't have a problem with that other then the use of the word Pro-contact which is a derogatory term. I am not pro-contact, I am pro-love.You can replace that word with ''others who hold various differing opinions''. Again, I am not a legal expert and can not give advice on Canadian law. Plus, it is a very bad idea to take legal advice over the internet. If you have questions, contact a competent legal professional. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 11:37, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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To all users
It would be a good idea to review this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view
In short, the neutrality of point of view leads to an objective, "scientific" discourse, whereas non-neutrality leads to one-sided views and propaganda.
An important point is perhaps to understand that specific sympathies are not incompatible with a neutral point of view: you can like a country, a person, an amorous preference, and nevertheless be able of an objective discourse about it.
Only objectivity is credible. That's why it is vital for BoyWiki. We don't "promote", we explain and illustrate. --Etenne (talk) 12:25, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Please ask yourself before hitting the post button
- Dose this have a cultural or historical relavance to boylove?
- By posting this are you going to make Etenne lose sleep?
To all BoyWiki users:Naming
The convention for naming pages is that articles should be singular whereas categories should be plural.
- Names of topics and topic categories should be singular, normally corresponding to the name of a BoyWiki. article. Examples: "Law" (which represents a body of knowledge), "France", "George W. Bush".
- Names of set categories should be plural. Examples: "Writers", "Villages in Poland".
However, I am willing to hear counter arguments to this practice or suggestions before deciding what the policy should be --Etenne (talk) 13:17, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Just yesterday I noticed that Wikipedia has categories with a singular title, e.g. wikipedia:Category:Vagina. Also, there are some plural article titles, e.g.wikipedia:Jews. Lysander (talk) 15:13, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- You can't figure out what those two (obvious, at least, to me) errors are due to? Uh... You certainly make up in glibness what you lack in perspicacity. User4 (talk) 02:37, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- Enlighten me. Lysander (talk) 03:16, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- Hey! You didn't enlighten me about what those two errors are due to. Lysander (talk) 04:10, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Welcome back
I was glad to read your message on BoyChat and to see you're back. Then I thought: is there any hope left that the French BoyWiki will survive? :-/
Bron disappeared, I don't know when, why nor where. So did the French tech Pinocchio, which is a great loss. Some rare contributors obstinately continued creating pages on the French wiki between 2015 and 2019. But now I think they are disheartened because of the recent and sudden software change, that ruined all the formatting we had made on a lot of pages (thanks to Pinocchio's coding extensions).
Now it seems that the Council's page doesn't work anymore -- or am I wrong?
If you can be of some help, I'd like to write more to you through a secure mailbox.
Caprineus (talk) 21:28, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- I categorized all the daily pages of the French Agora, from December 7, 2008 to July 9, 2014 (most of them were difficult to find before this categorization): Agora
- Now everybody can see the really tough job that had been made by many contributors of the French BoyWiki, especially by the tech Pinocchio. It is not acceptable that such a job is destroyed after every update or server change, as exposed here: Modifications intempestives (written more than eight months ago – nobody even bothered to answer).
- But do French-speaking writings matter?... :-/
- Caprineus (talk) 13:55, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- "But do French-speaking writings matter?" Well, I suppose that depends on who you ask. I would hope they matter to other French-speaking people and writers. I still don't have e-mail yet. Yeah, the upgrades do mess things up a bit but there is no way around that.
- Etenne
- Thank you for answering.
- The true problem is: when Wikipedia runs an update of MediaWiki, all features already installed are kept and perform correctly; but when BoyWiki is updated, almost all features created by a tech are suppressed. Why?
- This is not "messing things up a bit", but destroying things a lot. :-( As I said before, when contributors see this, they are disheartened.
- I hope you can contact somebody who steps in on this wrong update process. As for me, I know nobody, and can do nothing: my only competence is to write about cultural boy-love topics. If "there is no way around" to keep my job in a good state and appearance, well... I will finally recognize that I was wrong to spend so much time and energy for it. :-(((
- Caprineus (talk) 22:48, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- Etenne
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Hello Etenne
I will be posting under this header any message I have for your consideration, I will delete old messages to make it more readable.
--Eskimo (talk) 12:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- yes you were absolutely right, that worked. Now, any guesses on getting Extension:TimedMediaHandler to work?
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Hello Etenne
Regarding getting Extension:TimedMediaHandler to work, can you post an example page or description of what the problem is? I can spend sometime on the Internet trying to track it down and report back if I find anything replicated.
--Eskimo (talk) 13:35, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
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Hi Etenne, I am happy that you are happy with my work! I know that I can put pages into categories!
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