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User4, can you write an introductory sentence or paragraph to the article explaining what you mean by "turncoated"? That's not even a word, by the way. Thanks, [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 00:05, 25 March 2015 (UTC) | User4, can you write an introductory sentence or paragraph to the article explaining what you mean by "turncoated"? That's not even a word, by the way. Thanks, [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 00:05, 25 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
<blockquote>Not a word? What dictionary do you use? Mine (the Oxford English Dictionary v4.0.0.3 Portable) gives the following examples: | |||
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c 1645 Howell Lett. (1650) III. xxi. 33 Translations are but as *turn-coated things at best, specially among languages that have advantages one of the other. | |||
1624 Bp. R. Montagu Immed. Addr. A j b, To take notice of his dealing,‥in his *turne-coating from side to side. 1965 National Observer (U.S.) 11 Jan. 2 He told Mr. Watson he didn't ‘think much of turncoating’ when Mr. Watson announced for the House in 1962. | |||
1841 Hampden in Some Mem. (1871) 132 Apologising for his *turn-coaterie, saying, that those who now brought in the new Government would as soon turn them out if they came forward with the proposal of a fixed duty. | |||
1889 W. Roberts in N. & Q. 7th Ser. VII. 41/1 The most barefaced and flagrant *turncoatism. | |||
1892 Pall Mall G. 4 July 3/1 Whichever way I've voted, One or the other's sure to swear that I've *turn-coated. | |||
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(Careful when you argue semantics with someone who edits dictionaries and encyclopedia ''for fun''... [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:18, 25 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
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== Broadening the scope == | == Broadening the scope == | ||
What about politicians and organizations that were pro-pedo and then turned? E.g. [[Jürgen Trittin]] and [[ILGA]]. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 00:22, 25 March 2015 (UTC) | What about politicians and organizations that were pro-pedo and then turned? E.g. [[Jürgen Trittin]] and [[ILGA]]. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 00:22, 25 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
:Did a little on the ILGA. No time for anything else. Why don't ''you'' add the [[Jürgen Trittin]] stuff? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:18, 25 March 2015 (UTC) |
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User4, can you write an introductory sentence or paragraph to the article explaining what you mean by "turncoated"? That's not even a word, by the way. Thanks, Lysander (talk) 00:05, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Not a word? What dictionary do you use? Mine (the Oxford English Dictionary v4.0.0.3 Portable) gives the following examples:
c 1645 Howell Lett. (1650) III. xxi. 33 Translations are but as *turn-coated things at best, specially among languages that have advantages one of the other.
1624 Bp. R. Montagu Immed. Addr. A j b, To take notice of his dealing,‥in his *turne-coating from side to side. 1965 National Observer (U.S.) 11 Jan. 2 He told Mr. Watson he didn't ‘think much of turncoating’ when Mr. Watson announced for the House in 1962.
1841 Hampden in Some Mem. (1871) 132 Apologising for his *turn-coaterie, saying, that those who now brought in the new Government would as soon turn them out if they came forward with the proposal of a fixed duty.
1889 W. Roberts in N. & Q. 7th Ser. VII. 41/1 The most barefaced and flagrant *turncoatism.
1892 Pall Mall G. 4 July 3/1 Whichever way I've voted, One or the other's sure to swear that I've *turn-coated.
(Careful when you argue semantics with someone who edits dictionaries and encyclopedia for fun... User4 (talk) 02:18, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Broadening the scope
What about politicians and organizations that were pro-pedo and then turned? E.g. Jürgen Trittin and ILGA. Lysander (talk) 00:22, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Did a little on the ILGA. No time for anything else. Why don't you add the Jürgen Trittin stuff? User4 (talk) 02:18, 25 March 2015 (UTC)