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::: BoyWiki is not representative, or the voice of any movement. But I understand what you are saying, but you have to understand that what was possible 30 years ago is not possible today. Do I really need to list the reasons why? --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 19:42, 19 November 2015 (UTC) | ::: BoyWiki is not representative, or the voice of any movement. But I understand what you are saying, but you have to understand that what was possible 30 years ago is not possible today. Do I really need to list the reasons why? --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 19:42, 19 November 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::Hmmm… I wonder if '''Lysander''' would have any creative (or constructive) opinions on this matter. Anyway, I posted this also at [http://boychat.org/messages/1460685.htm BoyChat]. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 19:44, 19 November 2015 (UTC) | ::::Hmmm… I wonder if '''Lysander''' would have any creative (or constructive) opinions on this matter. Anyway, I posted this also at [http://boychat.org/messages/1460685.htm BoyChat]. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 19:44, 19 November 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::::This reminds me, we should install [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Echo]] so that it'll be possible to ping people. Anyway, ChildWiki was designed to at least give lip service to kids' liberating themselves, although they would need help from adults to do so. There may already be kids editing, or posting to BoyChat, but perhaps they don't proclaim their age to the world, lest people treat them worse for doing so. I know when I was younger, I didn't usually reveal my age online, because I didn't want people acting condescending toward me, or dismissing what I had to say as just the result of a phase I was going through. | |||
:::::What about the [http://childwiki.org/wiki/Youth_Rights_Network Youth Rights Network]; they had a lot of teenagers in their movement, some of whom may have been editors of the wiki. See their article on the [https://web.archive.org/web/20110701111323/http://youthrights.net/index.php?title=Age_of_consent age of consent]. By the way, if you find that some of their content hasn't been archived as of a certain date, you might want to try another date. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 20:16, 19 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Agora/19 November 2015
BoyWiki for boys?
Has anyone made any efforts to make at least parts of BoyWiki be designed to meet the needs and requirements of actual boys, as in children, and on their terms? __meco (talk) 18:28, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- I am not sure what you have in mind and remember that anything that remotely can be called "grooming" is illegal, esp. in the UK. Keep in mind that we are limited on what we can do under the BL banner.--Etenne (talk) 19:13, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- What about those boys associated with NAMBLA? I mean, aren't there ANY young people in this community/movement? Because if that's the case, then all claims of wanting to represent the boys' side in this becomes kinda moot, as in self-serving wishful thinking… __meco (talk) 19:32, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- BoyWiki is not representative, or the voice of any movement. But I understand what you are saying, but you have to understand that what was possible 30 years ago is not possible today. Do I really need to list the reasons why? --Etenne (talk) 19:42, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- Hmmm… I wonder if Lysander would have any creative (or constructive) opinions on this matter. Anyway, I posted this also at BoyChat. __meco (talk) 19:44, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- This reminds me, we should install mediawikiwiki:Extension:Echo so that it'll be possible to ping people. Anyway, ChildWiki was designed to at least give lip service to kids' liberating themselves, although they would need help from adults to do so. There may already be kids editing, or posting to BoyChat, but perhaps they don't proclaim their age to the world, lest people treat them worse for doing so. I know when I was younger, I didn't usually reveal my age online, because I didn't want people acting condescending toward me, or dismissing what I had to say as just the result of a phase I was going through.
- Hmmm… I wonder if Lysander would have any creative (or constructive) opinions on this matter. Anyway, I posted this also at BoyChat. __meco (talk) 19:44, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- BoyWiki is not representative, or the voice of any movement. But I understand what you are saying, but you have to understand that what was possible 30 years ago is not possible today. Do I really need to list the reasons why? --Etenne (talk) 19:42, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- What about those boys associated with NAMBLA? I mean, aren't there ANY young people in this community/movement? Because if that's the case, then all claims of wanting to represent the boys' side in this becomes kinda moot, as in self-serving wishful thinking… __meco (talk) 19:32, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- What about the Youth Rights Network; they had a lot of teenagers in their movement, some of whom may have been editors of the wiki. See their article on the age of consent. By the way, if you find that some of their content hasn't been archived as of a certain date, you might want to try another date. Lysander (talk) 20:16, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
