Talk:BoyChat

I ran across this, and don't know if we should have a copy:

> Subject: !! To All Boylovers. Please Read and Join Us at Free Spirits
> From: webmaster@ivan.net (Free Spirits Webmaster)
> Date: 1997/09/27
> Message-Id: <60hmrg$jtl@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.abuse.offender,alt.binaries.pictures.boys,
> alt.binaries.pictures.boys.barefoot,
> alt.binaries.pictures.erotic.children,
> alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.child,
> alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.child.male,
> alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.children
>
> Dear Boylovers,
>
> Do you ever get tired of looking through newsgroups trying to find
> information and resources that mean something to you? Are you lonely?
> Do you sometimes wish you could stop being who you are?
>
> There is a place on the Internet you can go to find caring support,
> glean valuable information and make real friends. Free Spirits was
> founded a few months ago to give you a place to be. It is an exciting,
> vibrant, growing community and we'd like to invite you to take a look
> at it.
>
> The heart and soul of Free Spirits is BoyChat, located at
> http://www.ivan.net/bc/boychat.shtml.
>
> BoyChat is a chat board but it is so much more than that. It is a
> family, a community of people, young and old, who love boys. We come
> together and work to accept ourselves, figure out what it means to be
> a boylover and make friends. If you need support, a shoulder to cry on
> or a place to just share your joys, BoyChat is there for you. We're
> waiting to meet you.
>
> You can learn more about BC, which is older than Free Spirits, by the
> way, by reading Alexis's history or the FAQ. The history is at
> http://www.ivan.net/bc/history/bchistory.html. The BC FAQ is located
> at http://www.ivan.net/bc/faq.html
>
> The main Free Spirits page is at http://www.ivan.net. Be sure to read
> the Mission Statement at http://www.ivan.net/mission.html to gain a
> better sense of what Free Spirits is --and is not-- all about. The
> gateway site will lead you to all other FS resources. Some of those
> resources are:
>
> BoyLinks, http://www.ivan.net/bl/boylinks.shtml, the most
> comprehensive listing of BL resources on the Internet. Take a look!
>
> BoyWrite, http://www.ivan.net/bw/boywrite.shtml, a forum for posting
> original, non-pornographic writing. BoyWrite is a depository of
> stories and poems about boys and boylovers. Please feel free to
> contribute or just browse.
>
> FPC, http://www.ivan.net/fpc/fpc.shtml, is a service that hosts web
> pages for boylovers. You can create a web page and house it here
> anonymously and at no charge. There are some restrictions as to the
> type of content that will be hosted. You can read the guidelines at
> the FPC page.
>
> HOPE TO SEE YOU ON BOYCHAT!
>
> With love,
>
> Jimf3

User4 (talk) 00:04, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Mass deletion of older posts from the BoyChat server

Apparently sometime within the past few years, several tens-of-thousands (or even more) of posts made to BoyChat were arbitrarily deleted from the BoyChat server. This means that a huge amount of the history of BoyChat has been lost, perhaps forever.

It is not known whether this mass deletion was deliberate, or was simply due to some form of incompetence on the part of the administrators of BoyChat.

Not deleted, just no longer accessible to the general public.--Etenne 22:08, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Citation needed

What is written here is not factual, it is opinion and it is wrong. 1. It was decided by the Free Spirits council and 2. there are technical reasons why this was necessary. I am sure they did not intend to inconvenience anyone. However, when FS mail is back up and if you believe this to be a problem then I suggest that people write to them and request that they reconsider their decision. --Etenne 23:17, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

What is written here is not factual, it is opinion and it is wrong.

Oh. Uh, have you checked:

• Thread-starter index of all BoyChat posts 2003 to January 2011

https://www.boychat.org/mbc/messages/63900.htm

and tried accessing the posts linked to in the early part of the index? User4 (talk) 23:33, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

What is written here is not factual, it is opinion and it is wrong. Everything beyond the fact that the posts are no longer accessible is not factual and is opinion.--Etenne 23:39, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Recent decision by the BoyChat administers to make older BoyChat posts inaccessible to the public

Sometime within the past few years, several tens-of-thousands (or even more) of posts made to BoyChat were arbitrarily made inaccessible to the public, apparently by an administrative decision made by the BoyChat administrators. This censorship of the posts means that a huge amount of the history of BoyChat is no longer available, including an extremely large number of posts which had presented absolutely no personal security risk to the original posters. It is not known whether this censorship of BoyChat posts is new BoyChat policy, or is simply due to some form of incompetence on the part of the administrators of BoyChat, given that the majority of the censored posts presented no actual security risk to the posters who had made them.

Sometime within the past few years, several tens-of-thousands (or even more) of posts made to BoyChat were arbitrarily made inaccessible to the public...

This is a fact, isn't it?--though the numbers cannot be easily confirmed.

apparently by an administrative decision made by the BoyChat administrators.

Who else could have made that decision?

This censorship of the posts means that a huge amount of the history of BoyChat is no longer available, including an extremely large number of posts which had presented absolutely no personal security risk to the original posters.

Again, this is all factual.

It is not known whether this censorship of BoyChat posts is new BoyChat policy, or is simply due to some form of incompetence on the part of the administrators of BoyChat, given that the majority of the censored posts presented no actual security risk to the posters who had made them.

Again, as far as I can tell, this is all factual. User4 (talk) 23:48, 24 April 2016 (UTC)