Draft:Outline-Greek culture at the time of Socrates vs. modern Western culture

Many BoyLovers see ancient Greek "paederastia" as an (unrealistic) "ideal state of being". These BoyLovers romanticize about "the perfection of Greek BoyLove," with little knowledge of the realities of Greek society and of the tremendous differences between Greek society and modern society. To say that today's BoyLovers can in any way look to some Greek "ideal" for constructing a current ethos for pedophiles and pederasts living in Western cultures--based on ancient Greek society--is absurd.

• Prehistoric Indo-European roots of Greek BoyLove

Greek culture

Earliest (known) Greek culture

The "Mythical" era

The times of Socrates

Pedophilia vs. Pederasty

Unrepresentativeness of sources drawn upon

The "shame" of passive homosexuality

The rich and well-to-do wrote the history

They were a small minority

Democracy was for the rich only

The rich were a small minority

Almost no middle class

Daily life of farmers: What is known? (virtually nothing)

BoyLovers: did they exist outside upper-class Greeks?

Structure of the society

Government

Times of peace, times of war

Cultural cross-fertilization between neighboring states

Attitudes about masculinity

Attitudes towards women

Breakfast, Beds, Babies

Egalitarianism

Citizens only

Farmers not citizens

Little known

Slavery

Sexual practices

Free-born

Slaves

Other Mediterranean cultures

Sparta