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A New York Times article about the NAMBLA newsletter says "One of those articles offers graphic 'tips on how to make that special boy feel good.' Another is a memoir by a former camp counselor who fondly recalls having sex with a 9-year-old camper, advises readers on using pornography to seduce a child and recommends travel to countries where laws on child prostitution are lax." What is NAMBLA's position on sex tourism, anyway? I see that it's mentioned in a couple issues of Zeitgeist, but without any commentary.[http://www.nambla.org/zeitgeist_june_2011.html][http://nambla.org/zeitgeist_march_2012.html] [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 17:28, 23 May 2015 (UTC) | A New York Times article about the NAMBLA newsletter says "One of those articles offers graphic 'tips on how to make that special boy feel good.' Another is a memoir by a former camp counselor who fondly recalls having sex with a 9-year-old camper, advises readers on using pornography to seduce a child and recommends travel to countries where laws on child prostitution are lax." What is NAMBLA's position on sex tourism, anyway? I see that it's mentioned in a couple issues of Zeitgeist, but without any commentary.[http://www.nambla.org/zeitgeist_june_2011.html][http://nambla.org/zeitgeist_march_2012.html] [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 17:28, 23 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
:I am not a member of NAMbLA and so I can not speak for them. I suspect that what was being said in what you read about the [[NAMBLA Bulletin]] was propaganda. My personal position is this, I am against it. I understand the arguments for this practice, and even apart from the very negative legal ramifications, I would still be against it as it as a general rule. To me, it doesn't have anything to do with boylove. On the other hand, if a BL was to take one boy who is selling sex under his wing and provide for his general well-being, education, etc... in a mutually loving and symbiotic relationship, that would be different. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 18:57, 23 May 2015 (UTC) | :I am not a member of NAMbLA and so I can not speak for them. I suspect that what was being said in what you read about the [[NAMBLA Bulletin]] was propaganda. My personal position is this, I am against it. I understand the arguments for this practice, and even apart from the very negative legal ramifications, I would still be against it as it as a general rule. To me, it doesn't have anything to do with boylove. On the other hand, if a BL was to take one boy who is selling sex under his wing and provide for his general well-being, education, etc... in a mutually loving and symbiotic relationship, that would be different. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 18:57, 23 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
::So I take it that therefore, logically, BoyWiki should cover sex tourism around the world as thoroughly as possible, so that BLs can see where it's being practiced and find boys to take under their wing and provide for their general well-being, education, etc. in a mutually loving and symbiotic relationship. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 19:20, 23 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::That would depend on whether you are "actively inducing" or encouraging an illegal act with a minor, or suggesting that sex with children should be pursued" which of course is a violation of Free Spirits rules and therefore BoyWiki's TOS. So that being said; yes, philanthropy i.e. ""love of humanity"( in our case particularly the love of boys) in the sense of caring, nourishing, developing and enhancing "what it is to be human" on both the benefactors' (by identifying and exercising their values in giving and volunteering) and beneficiaries' (by benefiting) parts" is a good thing IMHO --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 20:05, 23 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Agora/23 May 2015
Sex tourism
A New York Times article about the NAMBLA newsletter says "One of those articles offers graphic 'tips on how to make that special boy feel good.' Another is a memoir by a former camp counselor who fondly recalls having sex with a 9-year-old camper, advises readers on using pornography to seduce a child and recommends travel to countries where laws on child prostitution are lax." What is NAMBLA's position on sex tourism, anyway? I see that it's mentioned in a couple issues of Zeitgeist, but without any commentary.[1][2] Lysander (talk) 17:28, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
- I am not a member of NAMbLA and so I can not speak for them. I suspect that what was being said in what you read about the NAMBLA Bulletin was propaganda. My personal position is this, I am against it. I understand the arguments for this practice, and even apart from the very negative legal ramifications, I would still be against it as it as a general rule. To me, it doesn't have anything to do with boylove. On the other hand, if a BL was to take one boy who is selling sex under his wing and provide for his general well-being, education, etc... in a mutually loving and symbiotic relationship, that would be different. --Etenne (talk) 18:57, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
- So I take it that therefore, logically, BoyWiki should cover sex tourism around the world as thoroughly as possible, so that BLs can see where it's being practiced and find boys to take under their wing and provide for their general well-being, education, etc. in a mutually loving and symbiotic relationship. Lysander (talk) 19:20, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
- That would depend on whether you are "actively inducing" or encouraging an illegal act with a minor, or suggesting that sex with children should be pursued" which of course is a violation of Free Spirits rules and therefore BoyWiki's TOS. So that being said; yes, philanthropy i.e. ""love of humanity"( in our case particularly the love of boys) in the sense of caring, nourishing, developing and enhancing "what it is to be human" on both the benefactors' (by identifying and exercising their values in giving and volunteering) and beneficiaries' (by benefiting) parts" is a good thing IMHO --Etenne (talk) 20:05, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
- So I take it that therefore, logically, BoyWiki should cover sex tourism around the world as thoroughly as possible, so that BLs can see where it's being practiced and find boys to take under their wing and provide for their general well-being, education, etc. in a mutually loving and symbiotic relationship. Lysander (talk) 19:20, 23 May 2015 (UTC)