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#REDIRECT [[The Heterogeneity of Pederastic Desire Concerning the Physical Traits of Young Male Beloveds, as Stated in a Passage from the 'Republic' by Plato]]
[[File:Vase in the shape of a kneeling boy.jpg|thumb|center|Kneeling Boy. Archaic [[Ancient Greece|Greek]] ceramic <i>aryballos</i>, a vessel for perfume or oil, in the shape of a kneeling <i>diadumenos</i>, a victorious athlete binding a fillet around his head, ca. 540–530 B.C. Athens, Ancient Agora Museum, P 1231.]]
 
 
From <i>Greek [[Homosexuality]]</i> by K. J. Dover (Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press, 1989). First published by Gerald Duckworth & Co. in England in 1978. Footnote omitted.
 
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[[Socrates]] chaffs Glaukon, who as an <i>erōtikos</i> should remember (474de) that
 
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when a man is a lover of boys and <i>erōtikos</i>, all those who are at the right age somehow or other get under his skin and turn him on; he thinks they’re all worth looking after and making a fuss of. Isn’t that how you behave to beautiful boys? If he’s got an upturned nose, you’ll call him ‘charming’ and sing his praises; if he’s got a hooked nose, you say he’s ‘aristocratic’ (<i>lit</i>., ‘kingly’), and of course, the one in between has exactly the right proportions. If they’re dark (<i>lit</i>., ‘black’), you say they look manly; if they’re fair (<i>lit</i>., ‘white’), they’re children of the gods. And do you think that the word ‘honey-yellow’ is anything but the endearment of an [[erastes]] who doesn’t mind a boy’s pallor, if he’s the right age?
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[[File:Man Offers a Hare as Love Gift to Boy.png|thumb|center|Man Offers a Hare as Love Gift to Boy. Attic red-figure neck-amphora by the Matsch Painter, c. 490 B.C. Rome, Museo Nazionale Etrusco di Villa Giulia, 50462.]]
 
==See also==
*[[Symposium (Plato)]]
*[[Adult friend (dictionary)]]
*[[Age of attraction (dictionary)]]
*[[Athenian pederasty]]
*[[Boylove]]
*[[Cretan pederasty]]
*[[Ephebophilia]]
*[[Eromenos]]
*[[Greek love]]
*[[Historical boylove relationships in ancient Greece]]
*[[Loved boy (dictionary)]]
*[[Minor-attracted person (dictionary)]]
*[[Pederasty in ancient Greece]]
*[[Pedophilia]]
*[[Philosophy of ancient Greek pederasty]]
*[[Spartan pederasty]]
*[[Theban pederasty]]
*[[Young friend (dictionary)]]
 
==External links==
*[http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.6.v.html <i>The Republic</i>. By Plato. Written 360 B.C.E. Translated by Benjamin Jowett - Book V (The Internet Classics Archive)]
*[https://greek-love.com/antiquity/greek-practices/pursuit-and-flight-by-sir-kenneth-dover <i>PURSUIT AND FLIGHT</i> BY SIR KENNETH DOVER (Greek Love Through the Ages)]
*[https://greek-love.com/antiquity/greek-practices/greeks-pedicate-loved-boys-pederasty DID THE GREEKS PEDICATE THEIR LOVED BOYS? (Greek Love Through the Ages)]
 
[[Category:Boylove Documentary Sourcebook]]
[[Category:Reference material on ancient Greece]]
[[Category:Philosophical literature]]

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Kneeling Boy. Archaic Greek ceramic aryballos, a vessel for perfume or oil, in the shape of a kneeling diadumenos, a victorious athlete binding a fillet around his head, ca. 540–530 B.C. Athens, Ancient Agora Museum, P 1231.


From Greek Homosexuality by K. J. Dover (Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press, 1989). First published by Gerald Duckworth & Co. in England in 1978. Footnote omitted.

Socrates chaffs Glaukon, who as an erōtikos should remember (474de) that

when a man is a lover of boys and erōtikos, all those who are at the right age somehow or other get under his skin and turn him on; he thinks they’re all worth looking after and making a fuss of. Isn’t that how you behave to beautiful boys? If he’s got an upturned nose, you’ll call him ‘charming’ and sing his praises; if he’s got a hooked nose, you say he’s ‘aristocratic’ (lit., ‘kingly’), and of course, the one in between has exactly the right proportions. If they’re dark (lit., ‘black’), you say they look manly; if they’re fair (lit., ‘white’), they’re children of the gods. And do you think that the word ‘honey-yellow’ is anything but the endearment of an erastes who doesn’t mind a boy’s pallor, if he’s the right age?


Man Offers a Hare as Love Gift to Boy. Attic red-figure neck-amphora by the Matsch Painter, c. 490 B.C. Rome, Museo Nazionale Etrusco di Villa Giulia, 50462.

See also

External links