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From <i>[[Ancient Greece|Greek]] Homosexuality</i> by K. J. Dover (Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press, 1989). First published by Gerald Duckworth & Co. in England in 1978. Footnote omitted. | |||
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[[Socrates]] chaffs Glaukon, who as an <i>erōtikos</i> should remember (474de) that | |||
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when a man is a lover of boys and <i>erōtikos</i>, all those who are at the right age somehow or other get under his skin and turn him on; he thinks they’re all worth looking after and making a fuss of. Isn’t that how you behave to beautiful boys? If he’s got an upturned nose, you’ll call him ‘charming’ and sing his praises; if he’s got a hooked nose, you say he’s ‘aristocratic’ (<i>lit</i>., ‘kingly’), and of course, the one in between has exactly the right proportions. If they’re dark (<i>lit</i>., ‘black’), you say they look manly; if they’re fair (<i>lit</i>., ‘white’), they’re children of the gods. And do you think that the word ‘honey-yellow’ is anything but the endearment of an [[erastes]] who doesn’t mind a boy’s pallor, if he’s the right age? | |||
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[[File:Man Offers a Hare as Love Gift to Boy.png|thumb|center|Man Offers a Hare as Love Gift to Boy. Attic red-figure neck-amphora by the Matsch Painter, c. 490 B.C. Rome, Museo Nazionale Etrusco di Villa Giulia, 50462.]] | |||
==See also== | |||
*[[Symposium (Plato)]] | |||
*[[Athenian pederasty]] | |||
*[[Cretan pederasty]] | |||
*[[Ephebophilia]] | |||
*[[Eromenos]] | |||
*[[Greek love]] | |||
*[[Historical boylove relationships in ancient Greece]] | |||
*[[Pederasty in ancient Greece]] | |||
*[[Philosophy of ancient Greek pederasty]] | |||
*[[Spartan pederasty]] | |||
*[[Theban pederasty]] | |||
==External links== | |||
*[https://greek-love.com/antiquity/greek-practices/pursuit-and-flight-by-sir-kenneth-dover <i>PURSUIT AND FLIGHT</i> BY SIR KENNETH DOVER (Greek Love Through the Ages)] | |||
*[https://greek-love.com/antiquity/greek-practices/greeks-pedicate-loved-boys-pederasty DID THE GREEKS PEDICATE THEIR LOVED BOYS? (Greek Love Through the Ages)] | |||
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Revision as of 08:55, 14 March 2020
From Greek Homosexuality by K. J. Dover (Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press, 1989). First published by Gerald Duckworth & Co. in England in 1978. Footnote omitted.
Socrates chaffs Glaukon, who as an erōtikos should remember (474de) that
when a man is a lover of boys and erōtikos, all those who are at the right age somehow or other get under his skin and turn him on; he thinks they’re all worth looking after and making a fuss of. Isn’t that how you behave to beautiful boys? If he’s got an upturned nose, you’ll call him ‘charming’ and sing his praises; if he’s got a hooked nose, you say he’s ‘aristocratic’ (lit., ‘kingly’), and of course, the one in between has exactly the right proportions. If they’re dark (lit., ‘black’), you say they look manly; if they’re fair (lit., ‘white’), they’re children of the gods. And do you think that the word ‘honey-yellow’ is anything but the endearment of an erastes who doesn’t mind a boy’s pallor, if he’s the right age?
See also
- Symposium (Plato)
- Athenian pederasty
- Cretan pederasty
- Ephebophilia
- Eromenos
- Greek love
- Historical boylove relationships in ancient Greece
- Pederasty in ancient Greece
- Philosophy of ancient Greek pederasty
- Spartan pederasty
- Theban pederasty